support our troops has been a magnet on mini-vans since this illegal operation started. but does any one really know what that means? i know i haven't done as much as i should to really support the people who were brainwashed by an imperialist regime to find themselves on the other side of the world , giving up a life they will now never know.
i have gone to 3 marches against the war,called congress,taken my son to the IVAW tents,educated my children as to what support the troops really means...it's a challenge to teach a 10 year old child to be against the war ,but to empathize with the military that is engaged there,and be sorry , really sorry that all of those kids who have been there in that mess and so many died ,dying and for what? how many of them have asked God that question with there last breath? why?
you know what i think- the only way to really support our troops and ourselves is to finally do what is right. The entire Bush administration should be arrested and tried for war crimes and treason against humanity and violation of the U.S. constitution which George vowed to uphold.

"In logic, conflation is the error of treating two distinct concepts as if they were one." "Conflating words with different meanings can cause real confusion." - from the Wikipedia entry for Conflation.

The intent of this slogan is to falsely equate opposition to nearly any aspect of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (and much more) with opposition to the welfare of the American people in the military. I despised this slogan in the past and despise it now. The slogan diverts attention from what would really support US troops/veterans and diverts attention from the effects of these wars on the people of Iraq and Afghanistan. Indeed it diverts attention from the existence of these people expect in a very abstract and dishonestly portrayed manner. The slogan also diverts attention from the effects these wars are having on the general population of the US.

Getting the troops out of these wars alive and unharmed as quickly as possible would truly be supporting them. Providing good care for those who have or will be harmed would be supporting them.

It is clearly stated by the president of the United States that supporting the troops is not synonymous with supporting the soldier or veteran. He has threated to VETO VA benefit increases, he did not support the troops by being sure that their was WMD's in Iraq before sending over 4,000 of them to their deaths for his lies. Supporting the troops can only be done by never sending them to fight for a lie. To take care of them when they return. But most important of all. To support the troops now means to hold those who sent them off to Iraq accountable for their acts of treason!~

I am really curious as to how the psychology of this propaganda works. Various administrations have used this during wartime, and communities see their loved ones come back unwhole, and witness the apathy of the system to their plight after serving. If they come back at all. How can this slogan be made transparent, and what slogans and actions would have to replace it? ie, what can be done to appeal to people who now believe that being anti-war means being anti-troops?

Yellow ribbons that say "Support Halliburton"?

I suppose the Clear Channelization of media doesn't help with getting other perspectives out there. Really thankful for KPFA!!

Everytime I see the ribbon magnet on a vehicle I have this sinking feeling. The magnet does nothing to show support for our troops. I believe the slogan is to show support for the war not the actual men and women fighting the war.

I believe that supporting our troops would mean no more wars. Military would need to be used all over the world to build infrastrutures, education, etc.

San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom says that Fleet Week, the Blue Angels, Air Show, the Viper West, the Golden Knights Parachute Team, and all the other shock'n awe demo shows that come out here each October, expressly timed to coincide with Columbus Day, come to support the troops, in an unpopular war.

Our mayor's more famous for amorous escapades than razor sharp logic, but this year he finally acknowledged that Fleet Week comes to recruit, though he's still trying to tell us that they come to support the troops and honor the vets as well.

San Francisco's Fleet Week is indeed a massive all forces recruitment essential to continuing the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The U.S. Navy alone scoops up roughly 1/5th of its annual recruiting target right here in San Francisco in less than a week.

Twenty-five to thirty percent of the homeless on San Francisco streets are vets, and I also very much doubt that they feel honored by Fleet Week, though I also doubt anyone ever asks if they do.

I'm collecting signatures to get an initiative on the November ballot that would cancel San Francisco's invitation to Fleet Week:

http://www.ktvu.com/video/15590046/index.html

Anyone who thinks they could collect a page or two of signatures or otherwise help, feel free to contact me at anniegarrison@mac.com.

I'd support the troops if I could afford to buy groceries for my family, fill my gas tank once a month, and have a little dignity about what it really means to be an American.....I used to know.....but now....it's real foggy and I need some help......

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